Posts by Slidin Fast

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The J Dub Culture of Skirt-Wearing

by mummatron in

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this is something that has always bothered me.

as a born-in jw i was raised as a little girl wearing skirts and dresses which is clearly quite normal in terms of gender-appropriate clothing.

however, the older i grew, the more i realised that all jw women and girls wore skirts to meetings and when out in fs, but would wear trousers in their everyday life.

Slidin Fast

The latest dub line on dress and grooming? If you don't uphold the WT standards you are supporting Babylon the Great.

How does that work?

People are increasingly going to church dressed casually. Therefore those who go to the KH dressed casually (presumeably that includes women in pants) are being "babylonish".

This is according to talk in this summer's DC.

The fact that the tradition of goiing to religious services in your "Sunday best" is rooted in churches of all colours seems to have escaped this reasoning. Just another example of convoluted, cross eyed thinking in dubland.

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London Riots

by leavingwt in

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will someone from the uk briefly explain what's going on?.

Slidin Fast

It seems to me that whatever started this is now forgotten. People have realised that force of numbers, marshalled by social networking through smart phones cn out number the authorities. They are looting high value goods. The scale and scope of the insurgence over many centers means that the police are practically unable to deal with it. Whole city bocks of commercial buildings ae burning to the ground because there are too many fires for the fire service to attend. Huge fires that would normally be fought by multiple fire tenders are being left to burn or there is one lonely appliance with a small crew of fire fighters.

The momentum is gathering, the Prime Minister cameron is holding a meeting of "Cobra" tomorrow, the equivalent of the US president going to the war room. It is difficult to know what will stop this. Normally discipline is kept by a sort of general pact that people en masse will behave them selves. London has 15 million population with 30,000 police. It is not possible to keep the peace without some sort of public aquiescence. We may need curfews, the army, major intervention to get this under control.

It aint British.

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Fire fighting - Is it for Christians?

by Slidin Fast in

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Slidin Fast

It appears to me that fighting fires has been the hallmark of the org. throughout living memory.

The example that comes to mind: 1935, there is a maximum of 144,000 dubs at that point but a majority of them had lived and “gone to their reward”. Advertise x 3 is a success, soon the number will be over-subscribed. 52,000 already, by 1940 140,000 What to do? Ah ha! “Noo light, let’s invent the great multitude, that will sort it out.”

Now we have the pre-1935 converts most of who believe they will go to heaven. Well why wouldn’t they? Every other bible based religion thought so. They are the faithful and discreet slave distributing food at the proper time. I grew up with one or two in every nearby congregation. They mainly turned up for the memorial, never went any where near the preaching work and seemed to have a very poor grasp of what they were supposed to believe. Then we have the new lot, the OS who think they are going to own the world. They work hard believing every word they have been taught. They look up to this fictitious anointed master race who have now been demoted to being no different than any one else.

So, the generation fiasco is simply just the latest crisis averted by sudden miraculous inspiration. I am sure there are many more through the course of the last 100 years or so.

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So what do ya'll think about the recent new light?

by stillin9 in

you know, the thing they were talking about in the 2011 dc.

it was about how the "toes" of daniel's image no longer represent all the individual governments that have come around in human history.

and that the anglo-american world power is the last world power we'll see before the end of the system of things.

Slidin Fast

Judging by the world financial situation it will be the China/Brazilian world power. They will be holding all the markers. The the former Anglo/American

power will be working ll the hours sent to pay the bills. Thats my noo light.

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Paraplegic JW example used at assemblies

by Alfred in

it seems like every time our circuit failed to meet the field service goals set by our co, the very next circuit assembly would invariably include a talk that mentions a chronically ill paraplegic sister who would dial the phone with her tongue to make return visits or conduct bible studies... i must have heard this experience at least 6 or 7 times in the past 20 years or so.

and every time i heard this recycled talk, they would add even more guilt-inducing twists to it.

to me, it eventually became way to difficult to believe...

Slidin Fast

I am sorry it is actually true! I am that person. I have no arms or legs and the only way I can get around is via water. i swim very fast in water despite having no limbs.

They call me clever-dick!

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Isaac Newton is an anointed Christian.......

by Slidin Fast in

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did anyone else pick up the wild assertions in the dc.

henry grew, george storrs and isaac newton were part of the anointed.

Slidin Fast

Did anyone else pick up the wild assertions in the DC. Henry Grew, George Storrs and Isaac Newton were part of the anointed.

Friday P.M. – The DC , the post-lunch doze. On the platform, a quick fire question and answer session. The audience is bewildered, can’t follow. The speaker is going at lightning speed, reading from a densely scripted manuscript.

Did anyone in the audience pick up what is being said? Is more than 5 or 10% of the audience following or even capable of knowing what is going on

Why is this said? It is a blatant attempt to adopt the primeval slime of “new troofs” and make sure that no credit goes to anyone other than the infant NWS. Henry Grew was in the truth. There you have it

William (?) was also included. If anyone picked up the name please post.

I think this is a direct response to apostate research and speculation aired on this site, what do you think?

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Appointed Men ........ Boooyah|

by Slidin Fast in

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note - selected study material in italics.

my comments and bible quotes are in plain text.. .

Slidin Fast

D of C

caught this comment in the bookstudy (oops BIBLE study) last night. Isn't this a change from what has been previously said in past publications? Seems to me they used to make it sound like the "appointed by Holy Spirit" meant there was some hocus pocus divine decision making when these dudes were chosen by the BOE. Now, it just means that some subjective opinions amongst the BOE says they are OK to be included in the GOBC (Good Ole Boys Club).

I think you are right. the elders and the CO had their pow wow, the letter goes off. Two weks later it comes back, rubber stamped "appointed by Holy Spirit". They always insisted that the decsion was divine, theocratic. The phrase in this section seems to step back from that.

Quendi. Thanks for that analysis, I can't argue with any of it.

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Appointed Men ........ Boooyah|

by Slidin Fast in

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Slidin Fast

Note - Selected study material in italics. My comments and Bible quotes are in plain text.

*** btchap.5pp.41-43“WeMustObeyGodasRuler”***

The material we are expected to slurp up is and swallow is so slick and slimy that sometimes it comes back up a little. Take tonight’s book study for instance.

18 “The apostles, acting as the governing body of the expanding congregation, recognized that it would not be wise for them “to leave the word of God to distribute food.”

Apostles = governing body (lower case), this an introduced term.

"To resolve matters, they directed the disciples to search for seven men “full of spirit and wisdom” whom the apostles could appoint over this “necessary business.”

(Acts 6:2-3) NW So the twelve called the multitude of the disciples to them and said: “It is not pleasing for us to leave the word of God to distribute [food] to tables. 3 So, brothers, search out for yourselves seven certified men from among YOU, full of spirit and wisdom, that we may appoint them . . .

The text reads not that the twelve (note; not governing body) but the multitude of disciples did the choosing. How does that translate to appointment practice today?

“Qualified men were needed because the work likely involved not just serving food but also handling money, purchasing supplies, and keeping careful records”.

This shamelessly projects the modern practices and obsessions backwards and assumes that because they are done now, they were done in the same way then. Can you imagine? Stephen goes home to his wife “I may be busy for a few weeks I’ve been appointed catering overseer, it’s a real privilege of service” Barf!

20 ““Jehovah’s people today follow the apostolic pattern… Under the direction of the Governing Body, men who meet the Scriptural requirements are appointed….”

So now apostles = governing body = Governing Body

Therefore Governing Body = apostles. Modest huh!

Bye the way a s a disciple I don’t remember being consulted about who to appoint.

“Those who meet the qualifications can be said to have been appointed by holy spirit.”

Yeah right.

Hope you followed this little diatribe. I know i am preaching to the converted but I just have to unload.

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Refuting the ARGUMENT BY DESIGN.

by nicolaou in

it's tiresome and it doesn't add up but it's one of the most popular arguments for god's existence, "the argument by design.

" jehovah's witnesses and other believers point out a wonder of nature like the eye and compare it to a 'lesser' mechanical wonder of human design like a camera.

the supposed conclusion is that this natural wonder is evidence of creation by a powerful designer; god.. .

Slidin Fast

A general comment. I think the standard of argument and debate on this thread is a pleasure to follow. It contasts with the

sad spiritual desert you get when when thinking ability and good solid crossing of swords is stifled.

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September 15 WT Same old, Same old.

by Slidin Fast in

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these paragraphs once again promote the gb/writing commitee to the status of god.

they also blatantly reverse the meaning of acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so".

Slidin Fast

These paragraphs once again promote the GB/writing commitee to the status of God. They also blatantly reverse the meaning of Acts 17:11 by selectively quoting it, missing out completely the phrase 'as to whether these things were so". So we go from a scripture that encourages critical thinking to a misquote that requires blind acceptance. Please read on, (bold script mine).

A RE Y OU L ETTING J EHOVAH B E Y OUR S HARE ? WT 15/09/11 p14 pp 14,15

14 How do you react when Jehovah, the Source of spiritual enlightenment, sheds light on “the deep things of God” found in the Bible? (1 Cor. 2:10-13) We have an excel- lent example in the apostle Peter’s reaction when Jesus told His listeners: “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.” Tak- ing those words literally, many disciples said: “This speech is shocking; who can lis- ten to it?” They “went off to the things be- hind.” But Peter said: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.”—John 6:53, 60, 66, 68.

15 Peter did not fully understand what Je- sus said about eating His flesh and drinking His blood. But the apostle relied on God for spiritual enlightenment. When spiritual light on some matter gets brighter, do you try to understand the underlying Scriptural reasons for the adjustment? (Prov. 4:18) The first-century Beroeans received the word “with the greatest eagerness of mind, care- fully examining the Scriptures daily.” (Acts 17:11) Imitating them will deepen your ap- preciation for your privilege to serve Jeho- vah, to have him be your share.

Acts 17:11 Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·ni′ca, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.

Now we have read scriptures no one will bother to even look up the reference and see the ommision. The scripture is rarely referred to these days so it is fading into distant memory.